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TT course knowledge - SILJA - 22-01-2015
Now I've created an updated blog about the TT course knowledge. There's not bandwith enough to put it here at the TTwebsite. You can reach the blog here:
http://siljasttknowledge.blogspot.se/
If you have a need to comment what's written at the blog, please put all comments on this very thread here at the TTwesite and nowhere else.
There is a link at the blog to get to this thread directly from my blog to make it easier for you. Malcolm is informed..
Best regards,
Silja.
RE: TT course knowledge - panman - 22-01-2015
Please accept my thanks for your hard work and dedication Silja. Its great to have this wonderful resource alive and well again.
Thanks are also due to Malcolm for working with you to make it happen.
Best wishes
Chris
RE: TT course knowledge - SILJA - 23-01-2015
Please note that the newly published TT course knowledge contains a quite heavy update with new information.
Best regards,
Silja.
RE: TT course knowledge - SILJA - 01-02-2015
The other day I got a booklet from a race enthusiast who I hardly know. He's a member of the Motorcycle Historical Club here in Sweden. I was at the Stockholm section of the club before Christmas with a lecture about Isle of Man and the races there.
Newly he called me and asked if I wanted to get an old book that he owened. I said yes please of course. Now I've looked in it but I've not read it all yeat. It's a fine source full with pictures and information that I didn't know. The booklet is released by BP 1960. Is it a rare book?
![[Image: Cover.jpg]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GRcB4y6xpYw/VM47jxMcgHI/AAAAAAAAEMo/hYcYnpKpm4o/s1600/Cover.jpg)
There's an interesting map of the Clypse Course in it. As some of you might know, a part of the Clypse Course was the current TT course but it was ridden in a direction that is reverse compared with nowadays. As far as I know the Clypse Course was used from 1954, and the last races took place 1959. The first year for 125cc and sidecar only and from 1955 as well for the 250cc races.
There are some names on the map that are in places where the current TT course is. Does someone have some additional info about these places. The names are:
Ballaskelly between Brandish and Hillberry, Ballacottier and Slegaby between Creg-ny-Baa and Brandish.
![[Image: Map.jpg]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AocARWH25YA/VM47obLvgmI/AAAAAAAAEMw/dA_Zwp_BNtU/s1600/Map.jpg)
Already mentioned at the TT course knowledge thread is Gob-ny-Geay with another spelling than on the old map. As well some other info about the Clypse Course.
Quote from the TT course knowledge thread:
Gob-ny-Geay Farm 35 On the right. "Mouth of the wind". Also called Sunny Orchard. There's a little track at the side of the farm. It's a boundary line of the sectors used by Marshals and it is called Lanjaghan Lane.
Brandish Corner or O'Donnell's Corner 35.4 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/79/100/1 Fast left hander. Named after Walter Brandish who broke a leg here in 1923 which ended his racing career. O'Donnell refers to some owner of land here before 1914. Someone said once that if you ride from Hillberry to Brandish Corner (in the direction followed by the Clypse Course) you are travelling along Telegraph Hill."
RE: TT course knowledge - DaveN - 02-02-2015
On the 1:25k map all 3 appear to be farms, Ballaskelly inside the mountain course, other 2 outside
RE: TT course knowledge - SILJA - 02-02-2015
(02-02-2015, 08:42 AM)DaveN Wrote: On the 1:25k map all 3 appear to be farms, Ballaskelly inside the mountain course, other 2 outsideThank you!
Yes I agree now. I have a quite detailed map that I found this morning and all the three names seems to be farms, a quarter mile or more from the edge of the course.
As I understand too far to be mentioned in the TT course knowledge blog. Objections?
What about my book? Is it a rare one, please?
RE: TT course knowledge - captainsparkledotcom - 02-02-2015
(02-02-2015, 10:38 AM)SILJA Wrote:It certainly looks interesting Silja, but one sold on Ebay recently for 99p! (+ £2.98 postage!)(02-02-2015, 08:42 AM)DaveN Wrote: On the 1:25k map all 3 appear to be farms, Ballaskelly inside the mountain course, other 2 outsideThank you!
Yes I agree now. I have a quite detailed map that I found this morning and all the three names seems to be farms, a quarter mile or more from the edge of the course.
As I understand too far to be mentioned in the TT course knowledge blog. Objections?
What about my book? Is it a rare one, please?
Then again, one went for £10.50!
RE: TT course knowledge - SILJA - 02-02-2015
(02-02-2015, 11:25 AM)captainsparkledotcom Wrote:(02-02-2015, 10:38 AM)SILJA Wrote:It certainly looks interesting Silja, but one sold on Ebay recently for 99p! (+ £2.98 postage!)(02-02-2015, 08:42 AM)DaveN Wrote: On the 1:25k map all 3 appear to be farms, Ballaskelly inside the mountain course, other 2 outsideThank you!
Yes I agree now. I have a quite detailed map that I found this morning and all the three names seems to be farms, a quarter mile or more from the edge of the course.
As I understand too far to be mentioned in the TT course knowledge blog. Objections?
What about my book? Is it a rare one, please?
Then again, one went for £10.50!
He, he captain, It's hard to get welthy...
RE: TT course knowledge - HammerHead - 06-02-2015
Hi Silja,
I've used the video of Bruce Anstey's record lap to calculate approximate times from the start of each point on your course knowledge.
I'll email it to you. Please feel free to incorporate it into your next update if you like.
RE: TT course knowledge - panman - 06-02-2015
You may be interested to follow this item Silja:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251817978982?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D251817978982%26_rdc%3D1
RE: TT course knowledge - SILJA - 06-02-2015
(06-02-2015, 09:04 PM)panman Wrote: You may be interested to follow this item Silja:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251817978982?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D251817978982%26_rdc%3D1
Thank you! He, he. Everything that's more than 50 years old isn't worth a fortune!
RE: TT course knowledge - SILJA - 06-02-2015
(06-02-2015, 06:02 PM)HammerHead Wrote: Hi Silja,
I've used the video of Bruce Anstey's record lap to calculate approximate times from the start of each point on your course knowledge.
I'll email it to you. Please feel free to incorporate it into your next update if you like.
Thank you HammerHead! Message received. I'll read it and put it in to the knowledge thread when I have some time over. I believe that I have to contact Rick Broadbent to clear out if I can quote from his book "The Near Death Thing". Maybe it's enough to ask "Milky"? I mean the question about permission to quote "Milky's" comments that is published in the book. Maybe Duke have the rights for "Milky's" comments on the video? What is the opinion among members here?
Anyone who have contact information about Rick Broadbent, please?
Is "Milky's" info from the video?
Thank You again! All information I get about the course is of course always welcome! As a retired it's impossible to save money for a new trip to the island to check out things. Sad. It seems like it will never more be a journey. For the moment I'll keep the memories bright by the work with the knowledge thread. First time was 1970 latest 2010. 8 times all togeather...so far. You never know.
RE: TT course knowledge - HammerHead - 07-02-2015
(06-02-2015, 10:01 PM)SILJA Wrote:(06-02-2015, 06:02 PM)HammerHead Wrote: Hi Silja,
I've used the video of Bruce Anstey's record lap to calculate approximate times from the start of each point on your course knowledge.
I'll email it to you. Please feel free to incorporate it into your next update if you like.
Thank you HammerHead! Message received. I'll read it and put it in to the knowledge thread when I have some time over. I believe that I have to contact Rick Broadbent to clear out if I can quote from his book "The Near Death Thing". Maybe it's enough to ask "Milky"? I mean the question about permission to quote "Milky's" comments that is published in the book. Maybe Duke have the rights for "Milky's" comments on the video? What is the opinion among members here?
Anyone who have contact information about Rick Broadbent, please?
Is "Milky's" info from the video?
You are right, you would need the permission of Rick Broadbent to 'publish' Milky's comments from there as part of the knowledge. There are two Milky course guide videos. I'd have thought quoting from them would be OK.
RE: TT course knowledge - SILJA - 07-02-2015
(07-02-2015, 10:04 AM)HammerHead Wrote:OK. Where can I get in touch with Rick Broadbent, please?(06-02-2015, 10:01 PM)SILJA Wrote:(06-02-2015, 06:02 PM)HammerHead Wrote: Hi Silja,
I've used the video of Bruce Anstey's record lap to calculate approximate times from the start of each point on your course knowledge.
I'll email it to you. Please feel free to incorporate it into your next update if you like.
Thank you HammerHead! Message received. I'll read it and put it in to the knowledge thread when I have some time over. I believe that I have to contact Rick Broadbent to clear out if I can quote from his book "The Near Death Thing". Maybe it's enough to ask "Milky"? I mean the question about permission to quote "Milky's" comments that is published in the book. Maybe Duke have the rights for "Milky's" comments on the video? What is the opinion among members here?
Anyone who have contact information about Rick Broadbent, please?
Is "Milky's" info from the video?
You are right, you would need the permission of Rick Broadbent to 'publish' Milky's comments from there as part of the knowledge. There are two Milky course guide videos. I'd have thought quoting from them would be OK.
RE: TT course knowledge - HammerHead - 07-02-2015
If you Google him you will get a number of links. Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn as well as publisher websites which may pass any email on.
RE: TT course knowledge - SILJA - 08-02-2015
(07-02-2015, 11:08 AM)HammerHead Wrote: If you Google him you will get a number of links. Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn as well as publisher websites which may pass any email on.
I've googeled him and found an .aol address. No reply after 24 hours. Help please! I'm looking for "Rick Broadbent" who wrote the book "The Near Death Thing".
Please note! I'm not a member of Facebook and Twitter. Any reply, please as a PM as we shouldn't spraed e-mail addresser here.
RE: TT course knowledge - panman - 08-02-2015
Silja you could try contacting the publishers through their rights and permissions page: https://www.orionbooks.co.uk/Information/Rights%20and%20Permissions.page
RE: TT course knowledge - Dmac - 11-02-2015
I was doing some research earlier and came across a corner name I'm not familiar with. Does anyone know where Pinfold Cottage is?
Thanks
RE: TT course knowledge - Malcolm - 11-02-2015
(11-02-2015, 10:22 PM)Dmac Wrote: I was doing some research earlier and came across a corner name I'm not familiar with. Does anyone know where Pinfold Cottage is?
Thanks
I think this is a holiday let out near Laxey on the A2, near the Ballacollister Road Junction
RE: TT course knowledge - desmophile - 11-02-2015
That's the other name for Milntown Cottage I believe