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On-Board laps - Dougboy - 10-07-2015
I've just received an invite from Duke to order the TT2015 Review, fair enough. Alongside it were adverts for 3 separate DVDs of on-board laps from 2015. I'm assuming that Duke are simply satisfying a demand for these things which, frankly, leaves me baffled. I'd seen a lifetimes worth of on-boards years ago and never bother with them now.
Do we have any on-board addicts? Which are the best?
RE: On-Board laps - Alfie Noakes - 10-07-2015
Steve Hislop's RVF lap, a masterful display in letting the bike do what she's going to do and keeping his speed up, just watch how much road he uses with ease and control,
RE: On-Board laps - taxman - 10-07-2015
Joey's V for victory
RE: On-Board laps - HammerHead - 10-07-2015
Generally speaking I am a fan although I'm not sure I could sit through a DVD of four or five laps in one go. I guess on average I might download one in any given year (although I haven't for 2015...yet at least).
I'm a sucker for record laps - I bought Bruce's last year - but JM130s new record suffers from being obscured by dead flies towards the end so I haven't bought that. MD's supersport record lap (lap 4) of 2013 suffers the same problem but lap 3 is one of my favourites. He is part of a four bike train (with JM130, Hillier & Donald I think) and picks them off one by one.
RE: On-Board laps - Kursaal Flyer - 10-07-2015
With a thirst for course knowledge , theres nothing better
RE: On-Board laps - AndyL - 10-07-2015
(10-07-2015, 01:32 PM)Alfie Noakes Wrote: Steve Hislop's RVF lap, a masterful display in letting the bike do what she's going to do and keeping his speed up, just watch how much road he uses with ease and control,
I seem to recall that was the first 120mph lap recorded on video, or something like that, wasn't it? On a bike that was probably 20mph down on top speed compared to the modern machinery. It is a terrific lap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URHgdM7n_2A
RE: On-Board laps - scaramanga - 10-07-2015
the tt onboards can be a bit long
the newer onesa are better as the level and quality is much better than a few years ago
ansteys lap last year was brilliant and anyone who knocks the electric bikes should take a look at johns onboard lap credit where credit is due its quick
i prefer them when theres other action ie passing other bikes or being passed
RE: On-Board laps - spannerman - 10-07-2015
I've always been a sucker for Brian Reid's lap on the 250cc Yamaha which points to the sky at the Wagon and Horses, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuQEfT3kLjA
RE: On-Board laps - SILJA - 10-07-2015
There is a lap with Richard Britton from 2004 with a complete telemetry as a caption. That's one of my best sources for the TT course knowledge. (A bit old now but still worth seeing.)
RE: On-Board laps - Alfie Noakes - 10-07-2015
(10-07-2015, 05:44 PM)spannerman Wrote: I've always been a sucker for Brian Reid's lap on the 250cc Yamaha which points to the sky at the Wagon and Horses, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuQEfT3kLjA
It's a fab thing to watch that lap - another lesson in bike placement and corner speed, I think he only pulls top 2 or 3 times in that lap - first time he pulls top is just after Wagon and Horses, was in practice so he may be slightly over geared.
RE: On-Board laps - scaramanga - 10-07-2015
funny thing i gave a dvd to a lad i know who races the tt and he says the brian reed 250 lap has helped him more than any other as its perfect example how to ride the tt
RE: On-Board laps - Alfie Noakes - 10-07-2015
(10-07-2015, 06:44 PM)scaramanga Wrote: funny thing i gave a dvd to a lad i know who races the tt and he says the brian reed 250 lap has helped him more than any other as its perfect example how to ride the tt
It's a very very good lap to see where you need to put a bike, it's not a 190mph missile so you can see it clearly and just how much space you actually have out there if you use the width to your advantage ... and best thing it's a 2-poke. Sticking up for 250/350's here - you have to be precise, look after the corner speed and revs etc to get the best out of a little engine, one duff gear change or a bwaoorrrrrrrr roll off mid corner and your speed is gone.
RE: On-Board laps - scaramanga - 10-07-2015
yeah thats what the lad i know says i suppose you have to race the tt to fully understand it
while im a dedicated tt and road race obsessive im no racer and dont ride anywhere near as fast as i did years ago when i first passed my test and got on bigger faster bikes
RE: On-Board laps - matjaq - 10-07-2015
We've all got our favourites. As already noted, V4 Victory and Hizzy on the RVF are classics - Hizzy through Glen Tramman is special. If you hunt about on YouTube you'll find our very own Splashdown on an RC30 keeping an RVF mounted Hizzy honest, then more recently at the classic TT riding very smoothly indeed.
RE: On-Board laps - scaramanga - 11-07-2015
theres a onboard lap from dj that made me laugh at the time it was on open roads on mad sunday it is on the tt circuit guide dvd
RE: On-Board laps - Alfie Noakes - 12-07-2015
(11-07-2015, 10:19 PM)scaramanga Wrote: theres a onboard lap from dj that made me laugh at the time it was on open roads on mad sunday it is on the tt circuit guide dvd
Can't remember if it was Mad Sunday - we were parked up waiting at Ballacraine waiting for the road to be re-opened after an RTA, DJ rocks up and had a good chat with us, I left as soon as the road opened and was wombling along in between Alpine and Ballaugh next thing this very big very loud blur came past at monster speed on the back wheel .. tremendous.
RE: On-Board laps - scaramanga - 12-07-2015
defdinatly sounds like dj
just how we all like to remember him
RE: On-Board laps - beetroot - 13-07-2015
We always tell our newcomers at the TT and Manx to watch Mr Nick Jeffries lap as its actually tells you how to ride the course as well as being at a decent speed, unlike the 130mph laps that most newcomers feel the need to watch. I used it myself and quote most of the lines daily to see if the riders have been doing their homework!
RE: On-Board laps - SteelieGreg - 13-07-2015
I don't know whether this ones still widely available but Shaun Harris' 2003 onboard lap in the proddy 600 race is worth a look. Shaun does a commentary on the lap and gives a really clear idea of what he's doing all round the circuit. Some great descriptive turns of phrase too!!
RE: On-Board laps - Splashdown - 14-07-2015
(13-07-2015, 10:52 AM)beetroot Wrote: We always tell our newcomers at the TT and Manx to watch Mr Nick Jeffries lap as its actually tells you how to ride the course as well as being at a decent speed, unlike the 130mph laps that most newcomers feel the need to watch. I used it myself and quote most of the lines daily to see if the riders have been doing their homework!
Made my day!!
I've walked round the MGP paddock for years, and it's amazing how many folk still use my video. Peter Duke tells me that it still sells in reasonable numbers....... and it's 22 years old!!
If you could have seen the size of the video backpack that I had to wear to make this film, you would laugh out loud!