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C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - Malcolm - 31-05-2018
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A statement issued by Clerk of the Course Gary Thompson reads:
Following the collision which involved the Course Inspection Car and a rider during Wednesday evening’s Superbike Qualifying session, the following procedure will now take place with immediate effect:
A Red Flag instruction will apply to the entire TT Mountain Course irrespective of where that incident has occurred. There will be no movement on the TT Mountain Course by any rider until the incident has been cleared, regardless of how long that incident may take to clear.
The riders will only be permitted to move in Course direction under the control of Travelling Marshals at the front and rear. There will no longer be any movement of riders in the wrong Course direction.
A Red Flag instruction will apply to the entire TT Mountain Course irrespective of where that incident has occurred. There will be no movement on the TT Mountain Course by any rider until the incident has been cleared, regardless of how long that incident may take to clear.
The riders will only be permitted to move in Course direction under the control of Travelling Marshals at the front and rear. There will no longer be any movement of riders in the wrong Course direction.
RE: C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - c iom tt - 31-05-2018
Makes perfect sense to move them in the course direction, I never understood why they started it in the first place.
I thought a red flag instruction was for the whole of the course anyway?
RE: C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - HammerHead - 31-05-2018
I thought a red flag was for the whole course too.
The instruction is the right thing for safety, and I'm not arguing against it, but does it mean that if a major incident happens like last night where the course was re-opened in sections this can no longer happen and the roads remain fully closed until all riders have returned to the pits in course direction?
Surely there could be other contingencies for returning riders (without going in the 'wrong' direction around the course) to save them from potentially being stuck out there for 3 or 4 hours (or longer).
RE: C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - studiosoft - 31-05-2018
Did the previous regs require movements in the opposite direction to be chaperoned by travelling marshals or was it a free ride back?
RE: C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - HammerHead - 31-05-2018
(31-05-2018, 04:23 PM)studiosoft Wrote: Did the previous regs require movements in the opposite direction to be chaperoned by travelling marshals or was it a free ride back?
I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure they did.
RE: C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - Alfie Noakes - 31-05-2018
Any serious accident I think these days is investigated / measured etc in the same way as a open roads RTA i'm guessing for insurance, enquiry and coroner reasons, holding riders as mentioned by HH ^ is going to mean a loss of practice time / sessions. I'm all for safety etc but recently there are more reasons in place why a session is red flagged(apart from the worst outcome) but the potential amount of practice available does not seem to have moved on in a corresponding fashion. Another question that will need addressing is that if the incident is still being investigated when it gets dark which has happened how do you get bikes with no lights back safely ?
RE: C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - studiosoft - 31-05-2018
If the whole course is red and riders can only move if escorted away from the incident by a TM, I don't see a problem.
RE: C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - H2pots - 31-05-2018
I always thought that when they travelled in the opposite direction it was under the control of a travelling marshal ???
RE: C of C Announcement on Red Flag Conditions - BrianW - 01-06-2018
I understand that the recent incident has concentrated the C of C's mind, but holding riders up on the mountain for several hours on a wet day is surely not a good idea ? the course naturally has sections so if the travelling marshalls or police stop movement into their section after a period of time ie 30 mins, it would be safe to move the riders clockwise section by section like the travelling marshalls move now ? If there are riders trapped before the incident they would need to wait OR travel reverse direction under travelling marshalls supervision.
I don't know how the course car and rider collided but it was a freak, and I think this is a little OTT, but understand that something has to be seen to be done.
Having said that I wish Steve Mercer a swift and full recovery.