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New Triumph at the TT ? - Malcolm - 06-11-2005
Will the new 675 Triumph be allowed to run at the TT, looks as if it could well happen ?
Stuart Higgs - BSB Race Director has left a posting on the BSB Forum, as follows:-
Quote:TRIUMPH 675 TRIPLE CLEARED TO RACE IN BRITISH SUPERSPORT
The Directors of the Motorcycle Circuit Racing Control Board (MCRCB) have agreed to add an additional capacity to the 2006 British Supersport Championship Technical Regulations :-
Over 600cc up to 675cc 4-stroke 3 cylinder
With a minimum weight of 165 Kg and a minimum production of 1000 machines.
While the class is for predominantly 600cc four cylinder machines there is already an allowance for 750cc two cylinder machines to take part, so the precedent has been set.
It appears logical that a three cylinder machine with a 675cc capacity is also allowed to take part and the fact that this allows the Triumph, a British machine, to take part can only add to the class in the same way that the Ducati, although the only 750cc two cylinder machine, already adds to the class.
This will return the number of manufacturers represented in the British Supersport Championship to six (Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Triumph and Yamaha), which in itself is a very positive situation. The Supersport category is of tremendous importance to the manufacturers and therefore the racing category and choices of product available to the teams and riders should reflect those available to the public.
To meet MCRCB requirements, Triumph will comply with all other homologation requirements of the FIM for the Supersport class.
- ade! - 06-11-2005
be great to see the trummy back on the roads. just need a good rider on it. look what bruce did with the 600!
cheers, ade!
- larryd - 06-11-2005
Funny size, 675.
Now why would Triumph build one that size unless they knew bloody well that all this would be approved??
8)
- Don Simons - 06-11-2005
Formula Expediency
So what capacities will a 5 cylinder or a single have? Or will they leave that to some other manufacturer to determine.
"Honesty is the best policy - when there is money in it."
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Chris Maybury - 07-11-2005
My guesses are:
1 - Cylinder = 1000cc
2 - Cylinders = 750cc
3 - Cylinders = 675cc
4 - Cylinders = 600cc
5 - Cylinders = 560cc
6 - Cylinders = 540cc
Or, for a "straight line" relationship
I - Cylinder = 825cc
5 - Cylinders = 560cc
6 - Cylinders = 460cc
No way will the Panther Model 120 be competitive any more. :roll:
- ade! - 07-11-2005
oy mr maybury, don't you start taking the rise out of cleckheaton's finest, i did more miles on my panther than all my other brit bikes put together. if you took off those great heavy mudguards, that huge tank and that quarter ton seat, replacing them with lighter items, the old 650 was good for 85 all day
mind you, with the sidecar on it was a tad slower. 
i loved mine to bits [several bits in the end!] see:
http://www.ozebook.com/120.htm
and no, that ain't me.
ade!
- larryd - 07-11-2005
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too pretty to be you, Ade!
:wink:
- ade! - 07-11-2005
not when you've had a few of the old cargo tipples
ade!
- Chris Maybury - 07-11-2005
Don't worry Ade! I have a fair respect for the big Pussys. I did a fair mileage as a pillion passenger on a 120 with double adult sidecar.
The rider was an electrician and the sidecar was full of tools, pipe vice, conduit dies, etc.
The only let-down was when the left hand rear suspension shock absorber top bolt sheared under heavy load. :shock: The sidecar came over and gave me a big thump on my left sholder. I had the job of levering the heavy combo up using the pipe vice long legged frame and blocks of wood. A coach large bolt and nut effected a temporary repair and we were on our way again within 30 minutes. 8)
The owner got tired of changing the big end every 60,000 miles and eventually bought a Speed Twin and Steib sidecar.
As a sixteen-year-old, on my one pound, ten shillings a week, I could not afford the coverted Panther and had to keep my Cyclemaster for several months more. :oops:
- ade! - 09-11-2005
talking of big pussies - no, i won't go down that path
i wish i still had mine
ALU 875B where are you? last seen in the notts area.apart from that, how did you manage to earn thirty bob a week at sixteen? used to dream of earning that much [still do!]
ade!
- Chris Maybury - 09-11-2005
I was working for 9 months as an electrician's mate. A temporary position prior to starting a full Fitter and Machinist apprenticeship elsewhere. (I was a late starter and did my 5-years from the age of 17 to 22years old.
I started the temp job in 1958 and the actual rate was tenpence ha'penny an hour for a forty four hour week. I took one day a week off to attend the technical college, UNPAID and did an additional two night classe a week (the good old ONC in its day).
My Cyclemaster did a high mileage and was cheaper thain the train!
The bonus was that if I used my Cyclemaster for errands, I was paid at the full motorcycle rate of thruppence a mile.
.With 200 mpg and petrol at four and ninepence a gallon. I was relatively "rich". :shock:
- Don Simons - 11-11-2005
Chris's guesses are:
1 - Cylinder = 1000cc
2 - Cylinders = 750cc
3 - Cylinders = 675cc
4 - Cylinders = 600cc
5 - Cylinders = 560cc
6 - Cylinders = 540cc
mine are with the simple difference of 75cc
1 - Cylinder = 825cc
2 - Cylinders = 750cc
3 - Cylinders = 675cc
4 - Cylinders = 600cc
5 - Cylinders = 525cc
6 - Cylinders = 450cc
I wish the manufactures would specify megaphones and at least they would sound good even if any sort of formula logic has gone out the window.
- geoff - 13-11-2005
motorcycle union of ireland traditionally run fim spec one year behind, but it looks likely that the new triumph will also be allowed to race at irish events next year, subject to ulster and sourthern centres agreeing at the inter-centre conference in january.
Who will ride the TTTTTTRiumph ?? - ian huntly - 14-11-2005
Do you think we will see Shaun Harris aboard ??
Or will he charge too much !!
- cargo - 14-11-2005
geoff Wrote:motorcycle union of ireland traditionally run fim spec one year behind, but it looks likely that the new triumph will also be allowed to race at irish events next year, subject to ulster and sourthern centres agreeing at the inter-centre conference in january.
The MCUI traditionally run FIM spec one year behind ??????
Get a grip this year was the first in Ireland for FIM spec 600 racing and they made a complete pigs ear of it.
Also 750 twins for most of the Regal 600 years were NOT allowed. So they were a lot more than one year behind more like 10
If the MCUI decide to run all 600 racing in Ireland to FIM spec and if the FIM approve the Triumph for FIM 600 racing then the Triumph will be allowed in Ireland.
- geoff - 14-11-2005
i got the impression next year's supersport could be fim 2005 with the addition of the triumphs being allowed
Re: Who will ride the TTTTTTRiumph ?? - Shaun Harris - 22-11-2005
ian huntly Wrote:Do you think we will see Shaun Harris aboard ??
Or will he charge too much !!
I would love to race this bike on the roads! Ian, it is not a matter of me charging to much, it is a matter of finding a sponsor who wants to do the job professionally
Glad to see you are still thinking of me Ian