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Long memories required! - Bill Snelling - 20-07-2008

Been asked if I can trace any information about when this accident occurred, we believe it to be on the mountain
Lawyers would have a field day with something like this now!

[Image: Broken2BFrame1.jpg]


RE: Long memories required! - cargo - 20-07-2008

There is only one man for this................

LARRY where are you ?


RE: Long memories required! - thewitch - 20-07-2008

Larry says "It wasn't me!!" DSM Berrie backs him.


RE: Long memories required! - larryd - 22-07-2008

Fair bit of work here, to no definite result I'm afraid.

To begin with, I assumed that it's a race photo, since side numbers are not normally fitted in the TT or Manx practising.

It's an early ohc Norton with a Carroll engine - hence 1932 or later.

Looked at MGP first of all - Nortons with number 20, 1932 to 1938 inclusive (didn't run in 1939).

1932 Senior - J Pattison, off at the Bungalow. However, it was a very wet race, and in our photo, the sun shines. So, unlikely.

1933 - none

1934 Junior - R A Edwards, 23rd

1935 Senior - Dennis Parkinson, 20th

1936 - none

1937 Senior - J K Boardman, 8th

1938 Senior - L B Cherriman - non-starter (NOT as the result of a huge accident!!)

On to the TT, 1932 to 1939 inclusive.

1932 - none

1933 Junior - Jimmy Guthrie, 3rd

1934, 1935 - none

1936 Senior - Noel Pope, 5th

1937 Junior - Henry Pinnington, retired lap 2. I think that if it had been such a huge off, the contemporary papers would have noted this - they didn't!!

1937 Senior - John White, 3rd

1938 Junior - Eric Oliver, retired last lap with broken primary chain

1939 - none.

Post-war:

1947 TT - none
1948 TT Senior - Javier de Ortueta, retired lap one at Hillberry - no crash mentioned in the magazines.

I have no record of starting numbers in the 1946, 1947 or 1948 MGPs, so cannot comment.

I think it unlikely that such an old lady would be raced as late as 1939, never mind after the war.

Looks like the only possibility is Pattison in the 1932 Senior Manx, but then only if the sun came out later in the day!!

Sorry Bill - best I can do . . . . . . . . .

Smile



RE: Long memories required! - Bill Snelling - 28-07-2008

Give that man Larry a scone!!

Received the following info from the owner of the picture, didn't know it was Dennis Quinlan's when I posted it.
"Hello Bill,
You may remember me the Aussie Velo man.
The photo you got from Dave came from me ( attached)...I have the original small print.
When I posted it on my blog, below, it was from a scanned image and I'd neglected to add the riders name on the .jpg picture & couldn't easily find the original print at the time.
I've now located it, a small 3 1/2" x 2 1/4" print and on the back is the following pencilled information...
"No. 20, H. Pennington's (350 Norton) near Windy corner, result of frame breaking on second lap, 1937 Junior race..."
http://velobanjogent.blogspot.com/
That's sorted - bring on the next!


RE: Long memories required! - larryd - 28-07-2008

Damn!!

Only two possibilities, and I have to pick the wrong one . . . . . .

Evil


On the other hand, Denis Quinlan has a cracking blog going!!!

smilie