Areas clearly defined and will be widely promoted to race spectators

Improvements in place conform to coroners inquest report

The 2008 TT Co-ordinating Committee today confirmed that the prohibited and restricted areas will be clearly marked with newly created, highly visible full colour signs. The signs, denoting Prohibited and Restricted Areas, and signs warning fans that Motorsport is dangerous, will appear around the course.

Adrian Earnshaw MHK, Minister for Tourism & Leisure, commented: “Regular visitors to the races will find relatively few changes to prohibited and restricted areas compared to last year’s TT. The course has been re-examined by the ACU to effectively and clearly redefine the areas so that there is no public confusion”.

He continued: “The new signage for the prohibited and restricted areas will leave members of the public in no doubt as to whether an area is prohibited or restricted. A proactive programme is in place to advise fans of the exact prohibited and restricted areas as defined by the road closure order. Fans must respect the areas and enjoy watching this year’s races safely and responsibly”.

Eddie Nelson, Clerk of the Course for the TT Races and ACU Representative commented: “We have carried out a comprehensive review of the TT course from a racing point of view and have redefined the prohibited and restricted areas around the course. These areas have to be continually reviewed given the developments with riders and machinery”.

In line with policy that has been in place since 1992, the owners and tenants of land adjacent to the course are covered for third party public liability by the ACU’s insurance. Eddie Nelson commented: “The ACU have Third Party Public Liability Insurance for all owners and tenants of land adjacent to the TT as has always been the case. There is a slight complication this year in that certain areas have been designated as prohibited or restricted”.

The landowners and tenants of all such areas are being advised of the situation and have been asked to confirm in writing their acceptance of the prohibited or restricted area as it affects their property.

Where the landowner and tenant agree to recognise the establishment of the prohibited or restricted area then there is no issue that might affect the insurance of the land involved.

However, where such agreement is not forthcoming the landowners and tenants are being advised to bring that situation to the attention of their own insurers in view of the possible implications should a racing accident occur on their land which under such circumstances is not covered by the ACU insurance.

The organising committee has also carried out a thorough review of TT working practices following last year’s TT and has been working towards implementing the recommendations in the coroners report following the incident at the 26th milestone at the 2007 TT races.

Definition of a Restricted area as per the road closure order

No person or vehicle shall, during a closure period, enter or remain on a restricted area other than race officials, marshals, police officers in the course of their duty or other persons or vehicles approved by the Clerk of the Course.

The extent of the restricted area shall be clearly marked and indicated by notices bearing the words “Restricted Area”.




Definition of a Prohibited area as per the road closure order

No person or vehicle shall, during a closure period, enter or remain on a prohibited area, except to go to the aid of a person or to prevent further danger or risk to the competitors or any other person.

The Coroners inquest highlighted key areas that needed to be addressed. The following is a summary of the current status of those areas.

1. Some officials and marshals mentioned in the coroners report have made the decision to stand down from the senior positions that they held within the Manx Motorcycle Club and marshals organisation.

2. The Department of Transport considered attaching plans of the prohibited and restricted areas to the road closure order but in their view this would not be practical. However, the plans will however be available for inspection at the Sea Terminal, the Race Office and Ramsey Police station as well as each prohibited and restricted area.

3. A full list of the prohibited and restricted areas will be available on-line, via local newspapers, the TT race guide and will also be distributed at various entry points to the Island including the Sea Terminal and airports.

4. A contract has been awarded to a local company by ACUE Ltd for the marking and signing of all the prohibited and restricted areas as defined in the road closure order.

5. A training package is to be delivered to the Chief Sector marshals and Deputy sector marshals to ensure that there is consistency and continuous monitoring of the prohibited and restricted areas (marking and signage), with arrangements made for police support as and when required.

6. A complete review of the prohibited and restricted areas has taken place.

7. The Chief Constable, Mike Langdon, has been appointed to the position of Chief Marshal.

In this schedule the areas should be assumed to be PROHIBITED unless stated otherwise.

PROHIBITED AREAS AND RESTRICTED AREAS (In direction of The Course)

1. Quarterbridge Road/Cronkbourne Road Junction

(1) The left hand side – the fenced area at the junction of Quarterbridge Road and Cronkbourne Road for a distance of 28.5 metres to a depth of 20 metres.

(2) The left hand side - fenced area at the junction of Brunswick Road and Quarterbridge Road back towards Cronkbourne Road, for a distance of 45 metres to a depth of 20 metres.

2. Quarterbridge

(1) The left hand side – the grassed area adjacent to Quarterbridge Road at its junction with Devonshire Road.

(2) The left hand side - between the TT Access Road and the wall and including the wall from the ‘kissing gate’ adjacent to the Access Road up to and including the area behind the railings at the entrance to Braddan Bridge.

3. Braddan Bridge – Union Mills

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the entire property of ‘Braddan Bridge House’.

(2) The right hand side - the steps and gateway leading from the Access Road to Braddan Bridge.

(3) The right hand side – both sides of the bank adjoining the footway from the entrance to Rural Industries extending to the entrance to the private residence ‘Snugborough House’.

4. Union Mills

(1) The left hand side – the entire frontage of private residence ‘No. 1 Glen View’.

(2) The left hand side – the entire frontage of private residence ‘No. 2 Glen View’.

(3) The left hand side – from the western boundary of private residences ‘Glen View Cottages’ to the
entrance to Union Mills Industrial Estate to a depth of 3 metres.

(4) The right hand side - from and including the side entrance to Slieau Ree Estate for a depth of 3
metres to the boundary of the private residence “No. 5 River Croft”.

(5) The right hand side – the front garden and drive of the private residence ‘Skyryllin’.

5. Glen Lough

(1) The left hand side - from opposite the drive entrance to private residence ‘Ballafreer House’, the hedges and grass verges up to, but not including, the hard standing at the entrance to Glen Lough
Farm and Campsite.

(2) RESTRICTED the left hand side - hard standing at the entrance to Glen Lough Farm and Campsite in front of the gateway.

(3) The left hand side - from but not including the entrance to Glen Lough Campsite and Farm, the grass verges and hedges in front of the fence, for 100 metres.

6. Ballagarey

(1) The left hand side – the boundary hedges, walls and the front gardens to a depth of 3 metres of the private residence ‘Little Trees’.

(2) The left hand side – the boundary hedges, walls and the front gardens to a depth of 3 metres of the private residence ‘Kufri’.

(3) The left hand side – the boundary hedges, walls and the front gardens to a depth of 3 metres of the private residence ‘Uplands’.

(4) The left hand side – the boundary hedges, walls and the front gardens to a depth of 3 metres of the private residence ‘Casa Mia’.

7. Highlander

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – the grass verges between the private residence ‘St Trinian’s to a point opposite the private residence ‘Rock Cottage’.

8. Greeba

(1) The right hand side - Greeba Bridge – from and including the entrance to private residence ‘Kerrowny-Glough’ to Mill Road to a depth of 20 metres from the boundary wall.

(2) The left hand side – the entire low bank bordered by the main Peel to Douglas Road and Kerrowgarrow Roads, back as far as the wooden fence to the rear, extending to the stone building.

(3) RESTRICTED the left hand side – Gorse Lea – 10 metres before the Marshal’s seat to a distance approximately 50 metres past the seat to a depth of 5 metres.

9. Ballacraine

(1) The left hand side – The Pinewood Studio frontage.

10. Ballaspur

(1) The right hand side – private land and garden frontage of ‘Ballaspur Farm’ from and including the gate pillar before the farm entrance, to the end of the stone wall including the farm entrance.

11. Ballig

(1) The left hand side – the fi eld prior to Ballig Farm, sod bank, wall, hedge and entire fi eld, up to but not including the entrance to Ballig Farm on the TT Course.

(2) RESTRICTED left hand side – entrance and drive to Ballig Farm on the TT Course.

(3) The left hand side – from, but not including the top entrance to Ballig Farm, extending to the junction to Tynwald Mills Lane, to include any roadside sod bank, hedge or wall to but not including the lower entrance and drive to Ballig Farm.

(4) The left hand side – from the junction of Tynwald Mills Lane to the junction with Ballig Bridge, to include any roadside sod bank, hedge or wall, to and including the river.

(5) RESTRICTED the right hand side – from the start of the stone wall before Ballig Bridge, and including Ballig Bridge, and its supporting wall behind, up to the entrance to private residence ‘Villa Ludan’
stretching back as far as the river.

12. Laurel Bank

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the area of land extending back to the river, 15 metres past the tip gate to but not including the field gate and land just prior to the pedestrian gate to the Old Pumping Station.

(2) The left hand side – the entire field immediately after Ebeneezer Lane.

13. Black Dub, Glen Helen

(1) The right hand side – Glen Moar Tea Rooms, from and including the walled area, extending 50 metres towards Glen Helen including all sod banks and hedges, back as far as the river.

(2) The left hand side – from a point opposite the end of Glen Moar Tea Rooms to the entrance to the plantation road back as far as the plantation track road.

(3) RESTRICTED the right hand side - the entire fi rst fi eld after Glen Moar Tea Rooms, back as far as the river.

14. Girdwood Bridge, Glen Helen

(1) The right hand side – from, but not including Girdwood Bridge, up to, but not including, the grass triangle bounded by a wall and wooden fence before Glen Helen car park.

15. Sarah’s Cottage

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – from Sarah’s Cottage, the entire bank and fi eld behind the bank up to, but not including, Lambfell Chapel.

16. 11th Milestone, Cronk-y-Voddy

(1) The left hand side - in front of the fence, from opposite the entrance to the private residence ‘Middle Cronk Bane’ extending to and including the entrances to the private residence ‘Ballig’.

17. Handley’s Corner

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – the entrance to the private residence ‘The Smithy’ at Handley’s Corner.

(2) The left hand side – the entrance to the drive and hard standing area to the private residence ‘Shough Laigue Cottage’ at Handley’s Corner.

18. Barregarrow

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – At Barregarrow cross-roads, the first field, from the end of the fenced corridor up to, but not including the field gate, into the field to a depth of 1 metre.

(2) The right hand side – at the bottom of Barregarrow, from and including the bridge, to the boundary fence of Cammall, and back into the fields to a depth of 4 metres.

(3) The right hand side – the boundary fence of Cammall to the lane leading to ‘Cammall Farm’ and back into the fields to a depth of 4 metres.

19. Kirk Michael

(1) The left hand side – the entire frontage of The Isle of Man Bank, back as far as the building line, and the garden area, adjacent to Station Road, back down as far as, but not including, the entrance to the rear car park.

(2) The left hand side – Station Road public car park to a depth of 5 metres along its entire length.

20. Rhencullen
(1) The left hand side – the field prior to the drive of the private residence ‘Arenthou’ to a depth of 4 metres.

(2) The left hand side – the gardens, adjacent to the road, of the private residence ‘Arenthou’.

(3) The right hand side – the entire field and sod hedge, opposite the Orrisdale Road (south).

(4) The right hand side – the field from the end of the stone wall to the lane adjoining the private residence ‘Cronk Steone’, back in to the field to a depth of 10 metres.

(5) The left hand side – from Orrisdale Road (south) to the private residence ‘Balla Wotnot’ all the land in front of the fence.

(6) The left hand side – from, but not including the private residence ‘Rose Cottage’, to the private residence ‘Holly Lodge’ to a depth of 3 metres.

21. Alpine Cottage – Ballaugh

(1) RESTRICTED – Left hand side, the hedge between the entrances to the private residence of ‘Iceman’s Cottage’, but not including ‘Iceman’s Cottage’ Garden.

(2) The left hand side – the hedge/sod bank immediately after ‘Iceman’s Cottage’ extending the entire length of the field and 3 metres into the field.

(3) The left hand side – from opposite Ballacurn Road extending towards Ballaugh to the 30mph traffic sign, the area in front of the post and wire fence.

22. Ballaugh

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – Ballacrye, from opposite the private residence ‘Ballacrye Stream Cottage’ to the boundary of the private residence ‘Elmville’, excluding the first field.

(2) RESTRICTED the left hand side – the sod bank and hedge of field number 224526 which is the second field located past Ballacrye farmyard.

23. Wildlife Park (Quarry Bends)

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – from a point 30m prior to the Marshal’s shelter, to the Marshal’s shelter, all the grass banks, back into the car park.

(2) The left hand side – the grass banks at the Wildlife Park car park from, but not including the Marshal’s shelter, including the exit from the car park and the entire northern car park.

(3) The left hand side – the grass verges from the exit from the Wildlife Park car park, including all grass verges in front of the fence up to, but not including, the entrance to ‘Gob-e-Volley’ Farm.

24. Sulby School

(1) The right hand side – the grassed verge in front of the school including the driveway up to the boundary fence.

25. Sulby Bridge

(1) The left hand side - the gateway and entrance drive to the private residence ‘Rivercroft’.

(2) The left hand side - the fi eld on the left of the entrance drive to the private residence ‘Rivercroft’.

26. Ginger Hall
(1) The right hand side – the boundary hedges and walls and the front gardens up to the building line of the private residence ‘Lhen View’.

(2) The right hand side – the front garden and drive of the private residence, ‘Tranquillity’.

27. Kerrowmooar

(1) The right hand side – from the apex of the corner extending approximately 50 metres to the private residence, ‘Kerrowmooar Cottage’ from the road edge to the rear of the hedge or bank.

(2) The left hand side – the frontage of the private residence ’Kerrowmooar Croft’.

(3) The left hand side – the two driveways and front boundary wall of the private residence, ‘Lezayre Mansion House’.

28. Glentramman
(1) The left hand side – from the Garey Road to the private residence, ‘Long Acre’ for a depth of 3 metres.

(2) RESTRICTED the right hand side – from the apex of the corner, to the wall of the private residence, ‘Ballacree’ including the entire field.

29. Churchtown

(1) The right hand side – the grassed triangle at the junction of Lezayre Road and Lezayre Church Road, bounded by the road on two sides and the wire post boundary fence of the private residence ‘Lezayre Vicarage’.

30. Sky Hill

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the grassed verge and hedges 50 metres up to, and including, Sky Hill Lane to a depth of 10 metres into the tree line.

(2) The right hand side – the hedge and fi eld, after Sky Hill Lane, to a depth of 10 metres into the field.

31. Pinfold

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – the hard standing area prior to the private residence ‘Pinfold Cottage’.

32. Ramsey

(1) The right hand side – the triangular grassed area, from the boundary hedge of the private residence ‘Ballaghennie’ to the stone gate pillar of Ramsey Grammar School.

(2) The left hand side – the front garden, to a depth of 2 metres, of the private residence, ‘May Hill House’, May Hill.

33. The Hairpin

(1) The left hand side –the grassed area, to a depth of 6 metres back from the apex and 2 metres from the back of the footway, continuing into the tree line.

(2) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the lay-by on the outside of the corner bordered by the ditch.

34. Waterworks

(1) The left hand side – from the 2nd fl ag Marshals’ post for 100 metres towards Tower Bends behind baled wall to a depth of 5 metres.

35. Tower Bends

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – the grassed verges on both sides at the entrance to the Ballure Reservoir and the roadway giving access to the reservoir.

36. The Gooseneck

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the grassed area on the internal apex from the gate opposite The Hibernia Back Road junction, in front of the fence, and the field behind the fence, and sloping down to The Course on the lower side of the bend.

(2) RESTRICTED the left hand side – from behind the low wall at the end of the posted footway, running in parallel with The Course, up to the centre point on the Marshals shelter, and continuing to the Hibernia Back Road junction to a depth of 3 metres.

37. 26th Milestone (Joey’s)

(1) The left hand side – the bank area and lay-by in front of the stone wall and fence from 100 metres prior to the lay-by and to 100 metres past the lay-by.

38. Guthries

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – from the gate prior to the memorial, extending to the top side of the memorial and all the grass and hard standing area enclosed by the fence.

(2) The left hand side – from the end of the stone wall extending 75 metres in front of the wire fence.

(3) The right hand side – in front of the fence line – from the Marshal’s caravan parking bay near the 27th milestone extending back towards ‘Guthries’ for a distance of 300 metres.

39. Mountain Box

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – from the start of the angled fence running beyond the exit of the corner to the end of the angled fence the area in front of the fence.

40. The Black Hut

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – all the grassed banks and hard standing in front of the post and wire fence, from the start of the angled fence to the return of the angled fence after the lay-by.

(2) RESTRICTED the left hand side from the gate opposite the Black Hut to the tram lines at The Bungalow in front of the fence.

41. The Bungalow

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – all the area in front of the post and wire fences, wooden fences, and the roads closed barrier, from the entrance to the Motor Cycle Museum up to, but not including
the Manx Electric Railway footbridge.

42. Brandywell

(1) The left hand side – from and including Hailwood Heights Seat, in front of the wire fence to a distance of 25 metres past Brandywell Road junction.

(2) RESTRICTED the right hand side – from opposite Hailwood Height’s Seat, the grassed verges in front of the wire fence and hard standing areas up to the apex of Windy Corner.

43. Windy Corner

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – from the start of the angled fence before the Marshal’s shelter to 250 metres past the Slieu Lhost access road, all the area in front of the post, wire fence or the wall.

(2) RESTRICTED the right hand side – from the apex of Windy Corner, the grassed verges or hedges in front of the wire fence and hard standing areas up to the start of the stone wall prior to the private
residence ‘Kate’s Cottage’.

44. Keppel Gate

(1) The left hand side – 100 metres prior to the apex of the corner and 100 metres past the apex, the hard standing and grassed area, in front of the stone wall.

(2) RESTRICTED the right hand side – from the apex of Keppel Gate, the grassed verges or hedges in front of the wire fence and hard standing areas up to the private residence ‘Kate’s Cottage’.

45. Kate’s Cottage

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the area in front of the wire fence, or wall, from the private residence ‘Kate’s Cottage’, for the length of two fields, to the boundary of the second and third field.

(2) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the area in front of the wire fence, or wall from the boundary of the second and third field to the Department of Transport Depot at Creg-ny-Baa.

46. Creg-ny-Baa

(1) RESTRICTED the left hand side – the entire frontage of the Public House, ‘Keppel Hotel’ at Creg-ny-Baa, from the edge of the road back to the building line.

(2) The left hand side – the fi eld below the public house car park for 100 metres in front of the post and wire fence.

(3) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the entire first field including hedges, after the apex of the corner.

47. Hillberry

(1) RESTRICTED the right hand side – the grass verges along the frontage of the Department of Transport Depot at Hillberry.

(2) RESTRICTED the right hand side – from but not including the Department of Transport Depot at Hillberry, to and including Glen Dhoo Campsite Road and including the next fi eld, to a depth of 7
metres.

(3) RESTRICTED the left hand side – in front of any hedge, fence or wall from the boundary of the private residence ‘The Beeches’, extending to a point opposite Glen Dhoo Campsite Road.

48. Signpost Corner

(1) The left hand side – from the Marshal’s Hut at Signpost Corner for 200 metres towards Bedstead Corner the area of land between the road edge and footpath bordered by fencing.

49. The Nook

(1) The left hand side – the land and construction site at Government House bounded by the road and public footpath from West Drive, down as far as Governor’s Bridge.

50. Governors Bridge
(1) The left hand side – the area of land within the walled triangle at ‘The Dip’ enclosed by the road on 3 sides.

(2) The left hand side - Glenside Residential Home – the triangular area from the back of the telephone box to the perimeter hedge at a depth of 6 metres.

have i read that right? have we lost the gooseneck as a viewing point?

y2blade Wrote:have i read that right? have we lost the gooseneck as a viewing point?

Only to a depth of three metres, surely?

larryd Wrote:

y2blade Wrote:have i read that right? have we lost the gooseneck as a viewing point?

Only to a depth of three metres, surely?

the grass bank isnt 3 meters wide is it?...so yeah the way i read it looks like the gooseneck is history

i hope not! it's one of my fave spots

What does this all mean without knowledge of road and house names I can't make it out, is there no spectating at Rhencullen?

Do these restrictions also apply to the MGP?

Totally agree, it's really difficult to say reading this just what it means on the ground unless you know all the house names etc. Will definitely need a sighting lap! Will there be a map produced? Seems like a bit less viewing at Ballig area, Wildlife Park also.

At the risk of shooting myself in the foot, I have wanted to watch at Greeba Castle last couple of years but could have sworn there were some prohibited signs in that area yet there's none on the list?

Phil Windrum Wrote:Totally agree, it's really difficult to say reading this just what it means on the ground unless you know all the house names etc. Will definitely need a sighting lap! Will there be a map produced? Seems like a bit less viewing at Ballig area, Wildlife Park also.

At the risk of shooting myself in the foot, I have wanted to watch at Greeba Castle last couple of years but could have sworn there were some prohibited signs in that area yet there's none on the list?

It might be better if a list was produced where you CAN watch!

Rusty

You need to be a brain surgeon to work out restricted areas , still cant tell wether Ballacry Jump one of my regular haunts is restricted , not being up on field numbers , or Ballaspur , would think they will bring out a more user friendly guide & i am local what chance have visitors got

May be the co-ordinating committee will co-ordenate some kind of map Shaun??

My advice to all would be to have a nice touring lap and see where the signs are, then choose your spot. Still loads of great places, and maybe it's time to try somewhere you haven't been before.
I'm stuck at the bottom of the pit lane... don't see much style or action from there, but I will get to see those huge grins as people finish.

Who can answer this.

If spectators are paying to view the races from private areas, ie Creg, Hillberry, Braddan Bridge and other areas, whos insurance covers them in the event of an accident. I cant see it being the ACU as paid spectating areas would be seen as a bussiness something that it my opinion would not be covered by thier insurance as they are not in control of these areas. Also why do we never see a copy of the insurance details at these areas, by law they should be on view to the Public. Are the ACU/DTL going to ensure that these insurances if any are valid.

What a load of Sh@:e

Its gonna be lonely racing round not seeing anyone watching us.

If anyone has a list they can forward on to me of where you can watch I will put it on my website.

matty sayle


http://www.saylerracing.co.uk

FC Wrote:Who can answer this.

If spectators are paying to view the races from private areas, ie Creg, Hillberry, Braddan Bridge and other areas, whos insurance covers them in the event of an accident. I cant see it being the ACU as paid spectating areas would be seen as a bussiness something that it my opinion would not be covered by thier insurance as they are not in control of these areas. Also why do we never see a copy of the insurance details at these areas, by law they should be on view to the Public. Are the ACU/DTL going to ensure that these insurances if any are valid.

Quite simple Colin - if a householder/landowner charges for spectators to watch from his/her ground, then he/she owes the spectators a duty of care and must have Public Liability cover for when the spectator trips over a flowerbed or some such.

There is Public Liability cover built into most Household Policies, but this is to look after normal household activities.

What we have described above is something else - a commercial "business" which will need a separate cover.

Just try getting it!

If not in force, it could well be "sell your house" time . . . . .

Has anyone thought that slowing down to read house names to find out what they are is just causing more problems for spectators than it solves. I know that they need to be clear about where both areas are but surely some numbty in ACU Events must have realised that people not familiar with the individual house names round the course, so thats everyone then, will have no clear indication about where to stand. I doubt even the organisers know exactly where they are, and that if you quized them on it they wouldn't have a clue.

As for safety, wonder how many people are going to be hurt when slowing down to read the names on houses and be ploughed into from behind. You can just imagine that in the minuites before the roads close there will be major problems... come on ACU events get a map out for those that need it. r is that due at the end of June.....

larryd Wrote:

FC Wrote:Who can answer this.

If spectators are paying to view the races from private areas, ie Creg, Hillberry, Braddan Bridge and other areas, whos insurance covers them in the event of an accident. I cant see it being the ACU as paid spectating areas would be seen as a bussiness something that it my opinion would not be covered by thier insurance as they are not in control of these areas. Also why do we never see a copy of the insurance details at these areas, by law they should be on view to the Public. Are the ACU/DTL going to ensure that these insurances if any are valid.

Quite simple Colin - if a householder/landowner charges for spectators to watch from his/her ground, then he/she owes the spectators a duty of care and must have Public Liability cover for when the spectator trips over a flowerbed or some such.

There is Public Liability cover built into most Household Policies, but this is to look after normal household activities.

What we have described above is something else - a commercial "business" which will need a separate cover.

Just try getting it!

If not in force, it could well be "sell your house" time . . . . .

Thats why I asked, its the Law, who is going to enforce it. As for cost?????.
At the end of the day if an accident happens and the land owner who has charged spectators has no insurance the ACU/DTL WOULD BE LIABLE as thet had not enforced the laws which cover the event.

FC Wrote:

larryd Wrote:

FC Wrote:Who can answer this.

If spectators are paying to view the races from private areas, ie Creg, Hillberry, Braddan Bridge and other areas, whos insurance covers them in the event of an accident. I cant see it being the ACU as paid spectating areas would be seen as a bussiness something that it my opinion would not be covered by thier insurance as they are not in control of these areas. Also why do we never see a copy of the insurance details at these areas, by law they should be on view to the Public. Are the ACU/DTL going to ensure that these insurances if any are valid.

Quite simple Colin - if a householder/landowner charges for spectators to watch from his/her ground, then he/she owes the spectators a duty of care and must have Public Liability cover for when the spectator trips over a flowerbed or some such.

There is Public Liability cover built into most Household Policies, but this is to look after normal household activities.

What we have described above is something else - a commercial "business" which will need a separate cover.

Just try getting it!

If not in force, it could well be "sell your house" time . . . . .

Thats why I asked, its the Law, who is going to enforce it. As for cost?????.
At the end of the day if an accident happens and the land owner who has charged spectators has no insurance the ACU/DTL WOULD BE LIABLE as thet had not enforced the laws which cover the event.

It's not the law, Colin - there's no law that says you have to have Public Liability Insurance.

But, as a householder/landowner, you'd be clean mad not to have in those circumstances!

I know how fastidious I had to be to get cover for running a sidecar experience at Knockhill, with full medical cover, marshalls, top drivers and on a top class circuit... can't imagine what the risk level would be seen as in these circumstances. I certainly wouldn't be trying.