Many thanks, but I meant the SPLIT times (start-Glen Helel; Glen Helen-Ballaugh Bridge etc.) - I have not found any information about them on your beautiful web site. Last year they were on-line on <A HREF="http://www.iomtt.com">www.iomtt.com</A>. Is there a split timing this year too? Try and see which was the AVERAGE speed that the top F.1 riders were doing last year in the Glen Helen-Ballaugh section, and you will understand why I ask this!!!