Larry, tend to agree with you here, cos last year i met a guy , who was , lets say a lot older than myself, he had been out of bikes for a few years, and we got talking, i would bring up names from the past, and he would tell me about them, i then mentioned Dr Joe, and, he practically told me, what you have posted above!, i think he called him a self publicist!, or something to that extent!, When i mentioned the Waddons, EMCs etc, This guy just laughed!-borrowed property he called it!