Tom dont tell anyone else this its confident but Dave was telling one day that' if you want to be a sponser be prepared to throw your cash in the bin' this isnt a reflection on all riders but some he said just take the p///s, he was being sent bills for tyres etc 2 yrs after he had helped lads out.I emphasise this isnt typical of of the vast minority who are glad of every bit of help but just a few Tom and you probably know them, by the way if you want Daves tel no i will email it.