Andrew has added some extra views, some on my recommendation especially the Cronk-y-Voddee..

I'm already doing laps to find subjects for articles etc, running through some well worn video tapes of the Douglas Bay hotel of the Bill Smith/ Robert Cox (Renolds Chains)/ Alan Dugdale/ Family Haslam era I took myself and of the course with the camera on the roof of my car.

Youtube has a lap by Steve Hislop which is now stored on my desktop so it can be run whenever.

Looking forward to seeing Shaun, cheeky beggar, he's been in the white car a few times. It was a struggle coming out of Ramsey one year with Shaun, Doug Randall and on top of that, two pals who totalled at least 40 stone !

Add to that the weight of me, Doug and Shaun, a roofrack of racing tyres, a bootful of tools and parts.....Well I can see why he thought it was not, or was not capable of doing a nippy lap !! But on a good day POO it wasn't !!!