Just on another point, i know the ACU fought hard to get this years manx on. Now i know the un converted among us may question why they put so much effort in, refunds on course licence may be one. But could the threat of the collapse of the meeting, and all the extra revenue it generates, all related to safety of course, be used to try and get changes to the course license system. If no manx, no need to do extra meetings at closely related tracks