One other point, and i know i will slightly contradict myself. i don't if many people realise but the Dept of Tourism subsidise the MGP to the point of covering nearly have the cost of the entry fee, so if we have to attract top riders as a way of then attracting the public to the island, then this might be the only way to keep it affordable.As Will said i think the perception of greater speeds is what makes the riders question the rep times. When you are bored Will why don,t you and heff work out the Bob Heath's times against the Ryan times.