andy kirk Wrote:

cargo Wrote:The TT course licence is a red herring.........................

It was NEVER intended as a measure of ones skill or ability.

The problems that lead to the introduction of the TT course licence lie in the pathetic ACU race licencing system.

EG..................to get an ACU race licence NO medical is required that in its self is is reason enough to introduce the TT course licence It is quite disgracful the the ACU issue race licences without the need of a medicial.

An ACU race licence is I believe valid for 3 years so it is entirely possible to obtain ones race licence and not sit or ride a bike for near as damned 3 full years and then enter a race ! Once again a disgraceful situation.

Little wonder that the ACU came under pressure to do something. But of course to save face and to avoid a complete overhaul of their race licence systems.................it was easier to just target those who need their race licence to compete on the TT course.

The TT course licence requirement for TT riders is a nothing in terms of doing the required number of meeting especially given that most of them are fulltime professional riders who race week in week out to make a living................for a TT rider the course licence is a NOTHING it means nothing and it achieves nothing..........

Now it is a little more difficult for MGP competitors who are on the whole guys and girls who do not make a living from racing and for whom the extra cost of doing six meetings can for some be difficult. But if you really want to then somehow you will get there.

But please please please get it out of your heads the TT course licence is and never was intended as a measure of skill talent or ability to compete on the TT course................it's sole function is to provide evidence of a medicailly fit rider being currently actively competing in motorcycle racing. PERIOD


Rant over normal service resumed

cargo you are very miss guided.

1/ you do have to have a medical for a acu licence and take a training course and pass to get an acu novice licence.

2/acu licence is ONLY valid for one year not three.

3/ any acu licence holder over the age of 55 has to have a medical every year and eye sight.

4/ an eye sight test is required every 3 years think its 6/6 to pass.

5/ if you do not renew your licence after 3 years you lose it and start again as a novice

6/ any one applying for a mountain course licence MUST have a medical.

as for the course licence being a red herring well maybe. BUT when i,am riding the t.t course at least i know every one out there has earnt the right to be there and should be up to speed because they are race fit. i dont think this was the case before the licence was introduce.

thats just my veiw of the course licence its here we have to live with it or you dont ride the t.t course.

by the way i know the course licence was reviewed a while ago at a road race committee meeting.......and a few folks at that meeting tried for a reduction in the amount of meetings to qualify for a course licence.....unfortunately it was rejected.

all the best andy

A quick check of the ACU website reveals that I am correct in what I said.
An ACU licence application form only requires the applicant to sign a medicial declaration........nothing more...............a race licence applicant only needs a medicial under the following conditons.

"IF
• you are applying for an International licence of any discipline.
• you are aged 70 or over and are applying for a Road Race, Scooter Road Race, Supermoto, Sprint & Hillclimb, Drag,
Pocket Bike, or Track Racing Licence.
• you are being treated for diabetes.
• the ACU Medical Panel has requested that you have a medical examination and eyesight report."

Also while the actual licence may well be only valid fo a year it is the case that

"National licence holders who have allowed their licence to lapse for 3 years or more and have not competed at a
Road Race event in this period, will be required to complete the competitor training course before resuming competition at Clubman level."

So one race every 3 years and you keep yoiur licence

Misguided....................... I think not

Have a good look at the ACU site and its all there inblack and white