Stella very interesting but i was at Brands 30yrs ago with my mates collecting for the John G Williams fund when later in the evening i spoke to another legend Tom Herron, the conversation was about this up and comer called Joey Dunlop who i thought was untidy at Druids? guess what Tom replied ' this place is crazy you have daddies boys on racing bikes who dont know what they are doing' Tom god bless him said ' GIVE ME THE TT COURSE ANYTIME ' i think i know what Tom thought as Neither John or Tom lost their lifes on the TT mountain course.