Should bikes race in the wet ?
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RE: Should bikes race in the wet ?
(06-09-2011, 10:20 PM)Jeff Kirby Wrote: I don't see why I should have to justify my position but if it stops misguided assumptions and inaccurate conclusions, I will.

1) Our role is to check for compliance to the regulations. If a machine comes into the bay with full wets fitted, the question would be asked if the intention is to run using those tyres. If the answer is "Yes" then the rider/ mechanic would be advised that the tyres would probably not last a full lap. However, if the rider / mechanic chooses not to act upon this advice then that is up to him / her. It is the same with chain tension, some riders have a lot of slack but others have virtually none. Machine preparation is the responsibility of the rider and as there is nothing in the regulations to say that wets cannot be used on modern machines or that there should be 25 mm of freeplay in the chain then it is the rider's decision.

2) There was a case during the Grand Prix where a bike was presented fitted with full wets. As in 1) the rider was asked if he intended to go out on those tyres and the answer was that he didn't want to get mud and gravel from the bottom paddock on his race tyres and that he intended to change the wheels in the parc ferme. As the machines should be presented ready to race, the rider was asked to change the wheels in our "sin bin" area so that we could check that all the lockwiring was replaced as per the regulations. The rider was happy to do this.

3) Please note that I do not hide behind a pseudonym.

Jeff Kirby

Jeff decisions made by scrutineers is always respected and valued. Two question I would like clarified is why are riders allowed to race in the MGP when its raining but not the TT and why is a race at the MGP not declared a wet race when its raining (Mondays Junior race).
I can understand that you may not be able to give the answers for one reason or the other.

Thanks for also putting Larry straight that full wets wont last a race at the MGP.

Posted on another site by a a MGP rider of this year James Christy, he was not allowed to race on full wets in the junior race, stopped in the technical inspection. This is another rider among others that were told the same thing, Allan Jackson was anotther, forced him to pull in. Maybe some are getting the regs mixed up due to pressure or the fact the classics are inspected at the same time as the modern bikes.
Please look into this for us riders Jeff please.
(This post was last modified: 07-09-2011, 05:03 PM by George.)
07-09-2011, 12:08 AM
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Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Malcolm - 02-09-2011, 02:48 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 02-09-2011, 01:04 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 02-09-2011, 10:23 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 03-09-2011, 09:01 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Manx Mist - 03-09-2011, 06:31 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 03-09-2011, 10:30 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Manx Mist - 03-09-2011, 11:13 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 03-09-2011, 11:39 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ammo - 04-09-2011, 06:18 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 04-09-2011, 01:04 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 05-09-2011, 01:22 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 05-09-2011, 07:40 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 05-09-2011, 10:54 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 05-09-2011, 11:17 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ammo - 06-09-2011, 07:14 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 06-09-2011, 12:23 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 06-09-2011, 10:18 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 07-09-2011, 12:08 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 06-09-2011, 11:04 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Rich - 07-09-2011, 10:21 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Lee - 09-09-2011, 01:03 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 09-09-2011, 09:48 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 09-09-2011, 12:50 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 09-09-2011, 12:52 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 09-09-2011, 03:26 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 09-09-2011, 05:29 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 09-09-2011, 07:16 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by pat slinn - 10-09-2011, 12:23 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 09-09-2011, 08:21 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 09-09-2011, 11:30 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 10-09-2011, 11:34 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by larryd - 10-09-2011, 05:51 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 10-09-2011, 07:00 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Malcolm - 11-09-2011, 06:08 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 11-09-2011, 10:29 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 11-09-2011, 02:20 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 11-09-2011, 02:50 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 11-09-2011, 06:19 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Jo Rowe - 12-09-2011, 12:48 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 12-09-2011, 05:00 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 12-09-2011, 09:17 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Jo Rowe - 12-09-2011, 09:02 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Jo Rowe - 12-09-2011, 09:24 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 12-09-2011, 09:53 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by tripod - 12-09-2011, 11:07 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 12-09-2011, 10:07 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Gstarron - 12-09-2011, 11:01 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 12-09-2011, 11:17 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by George - 13-09-2011, 05:14 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ade! - 15-09-2011, 12:44 AM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by ammo - 17-09-2011, 03:55 PM
RE: Should bikes race in the wet ? - by Gstarron - 18-09-2011, 06:38 PM



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