In my experience (3 visits to oz & 1 to NZ) its actually the ozzies that are always whinging like a bunch of old women. Ive never met such a bunch of miserable old/young gits. The exception to this is Jan Grainger who I met last year -your lovely Jan & and not whingy at all!! They say that attack is the best form of defence and this is spot on where Ozzies are concerned i.e-"lets all say that the Brits are a miserable bunch of whinging t*****s that way no one will notice its actually us that moan non stop !!!