Sorry Nick I stand corrected as I did jump to a conclusion that it would appear was wrong , I openly admit that I am not the Historian that you and many others are , I live for today ,  and I have no idea how things were run back in 1957 , but in a time trial that is what can happen it's not as if he had 77 riders to pass , he just had to do what you have to do in a time trial post the fastest time , taking nothing away from his achievement but I still think we must move with the times , and you expect no less than I will remain as stubborn as I ever was , we differ on this and accept our rights to our opinions , on here I stand alone and I accept that , but there are people with clout that make decisions agree with me ,and at the end of the day it's not me you need to convince you need to use your influence in your new position to change the opinions of the organisers

as for the vote we all know how that will go and as I have just said I know I stand alone , and to have a vote on this is some what against the vote we had only a week or so ago

ok I am on my own but lets be realistic on this post all the people against me only amount to a small vocal few , what about 25 to 1   I have seen worse odds than that in the winning enclosure

on the other site we were considered a vocal minority I think now that they have split us up in to a smaller fragment they will consider us an even smaller minority , so being vocal on here is not in my opinion going to get you what you want