Shameful and sad to have an opinion now is it ?? .. Anybody getting themselves or a bike onto Glencrutchery Rd has my total and upmost respect as I know very well what efforts and commitment are involved but for me it's the forced upon me "Green Thing" theme that spoils it - there isn't anything green about the costs, methods, transport and manpower involved with making the battery and I can't see how those costs are ever going to reduce as time goes by, call me old fashioned but if you're digging something out of the ground which has been there for centuries then transporting it all round the world to refine it what is the difference between that and so-called fossil fuel or does Lithium and the other rare metals grow on trees ?.