Win's? he has achieved more wins than Joey or any other rider by winning 12 times in his short TT years, albeit the others have won more TTs, Joey, Hailwood, JM, hasn't done that, i was one of many Joey greatest fans but i have never seen Joey ride as hard as Michael can especialy on the brakes, i have never seen a roads rider brake as good as Michael can, in my 50yrs of watching the TT he to me is the best we have seen by far, and his ability to be a tactiician like his uncle is getting better, although Joey will take some beating in that department, with 10 DNFs to date lets just hope he is not as unlucky as Joey was with his DNFs