I think the points Arthur made are very valid as well as intersting and you two ought to get off his case. The point he was making and that you both have missed re his club championship award was that he was handed an old trophy that was once given for something far greater and would be worth a lot more in sentimental terms to MW. If I was ever that motivated to do another TT the last thing I'd wanna do to raise the money would be to sell any of my own hard-earnt reps, but there again I've only got a few, and as NCD has dozens of em to reflect both his greater ability and commitment I can sypathise that he'd gladly trade them in for a chance of a winners one.