hilary R
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DCLUCIE Wrote:I think there are alot more issues arising now for the public with the introduction of the new practice times. The roads closing at 4pm, just before the so called rush hour. This would mean that the Mountain shuts at 4 on the dot and the marshals and all the other hard working individuals being there for around 3.30pm. How many employers will see this as a major problem when the marshals ask for more time off work in addition to that already taken. This doesn't even take into account the promise that was made last year at the Manx GP that this will never happen again. Yes I know WE all know that there are two different organisers, but the public will not see it that way. And I think it was the Tourism Minister that said that after all the pulic row at the Manx GP.
Lets face it, without the support of the manx workers this event will not happen. You may well say thats a load of crud, but you don't realise that this is a massive issue for those employers, and with jobn security the way it is on the Island I can fully understand if Marshals say 'hang on this is just taking the mike stuff this', and not marshal at all. It is also going to be to the advantage to those that don't want the TT, and this is only giving them more nails to hammer into the coffin of the TT. Not one of us on here want to see that.
BUT I don't think that Mr Hussain see's it that way at all. All he is after is an event and a launch pad for his event, thats all, he doesn't care about the TT. Well as for me I would much rather see the proper bikes racing, the manx people being disrupted less and the races continue on the path that has shown tremendous growth in the past few years. We all thought that when Paul Phillips joined the TT crew that this would be just another sponge and that nothing will really change. We all challenged him on everything he has done. Me for one really did have a go at him on many an occasion, but it has been proved that the TT is coming back, just look at the class of the entry list this year. Was it down to just Paul, well I don't know, but one thing is for sure he has made a big possitive impact with attracting new and older talent back to the TT, and the races do seem to be going from strength to strength, not in massive leaps, but small amounts that add up each year.
But will the TT keep going like this now that the majority of people who work in Douglas can not get home on yet another day due to a race that only has one lap, that has attracted someone who can not get a TT mountain course licence but is alowed to ride anyway and the Government are even proud of that. It is a shame all the hard work over the last few years may have just all been undone by one race, which is only one lap in distance. This has not been thought through and rushed faster than anything I have ever seen.
Got your marigolds everyone by the way?
I am in total agreement, i have spoken to a couple of marshalls from England and because TT starts a week later they cant get here, so they may speak for many, so practise week may be down due to this anyway, as for shuting the roads at 4pm for 4 days well i cant see anybody putting up with that, however much you enjoy something i would want to go home first change and all the rest, and not feel stuck somewhere i wouldnt want to be
Paul Philips i think has done a brilliant job,
TT last year was the best i have seen for many a year, not to many people but the racing was brilliant
I can see they have to change some things, and times have to change, but i think that the measure they have gone to this year and all that you have stated are going to upset to many local people, and the fact they have taken all the entertainment away along the prom will have a detremental affect especially on our teenagers, like the fair or not it gave some of them jobs and to feel part of the festival, some may not like the bikes but they love the atmosphere and they feel part of TT, leave them at a loose end well.
ttxgp doesnt need to be run with TT.
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DCLUCIE
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Mick Grant is mentioned and i am unsure as to how he qualifys for a Mountain Licence. He hasn't raced, and according to the ACU regs an entrant for ANY event held over the TT mountain course needs the licence. So unless the ACU has been told he is riding without any consultation with the ACU then I guess what can they do? Well they can tell him he can not ride for a start. They can NOT be seen to go back on a licence they have made every other rider get in the first place. No doubt about it folks this is very dangerous ground the ACU are treading, just look what happened to Sammy Miller last year, and that could have ended a heck of a lot worse than it did. In fact he was lucky to get away with it. Imagine if Mick Grant did the same and ended up at the very bottom. The inquest would ask why was a person not qualified to be on the course alowed out there. The ACU would have no answer and that would be that. The very excuse that all the anti-TT people will be looking for.
This FARCE should be STOPPED now before it does more damage to the TT than it can survive. It should be better organised and should be better thought out than already has been.
There, apparently, is also Health and Safety issues with Hydrogen cells, as appartently under current legislation they are not alowed in the island.
If you want to see how bad its getting have a look,
http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Traveller...5167247.jp
When people say one thing and mean another its called politics, when organisers say one thing and mean another its called a mistake, when the ACU say one thing and mean another its called information.
(This post was last modified: 15-04-2009, 01:10 PM by DCLUCIE.)
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hilary R
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irishago Wrote:Theirs a way out of this i for one would be willing to Marshal for a morning practice. Dont forget these machines will make little or no noise. So noise will not be an issue. Just 2 early morning sessions should be enough. Start at about 20 mins to 6 and end at about 7.40
Like the old days. They should be abel to get at least 2laps in. Just a thought Ive spoke to a few other Marshals who said they would also come forward if needed. Dosent affect the traffic as much as an early evening start all the best Irish Ago......
Dont forget though theses machines have not been tested on a mountain section or anywhere, they are only having a prototype race on short circuit, so i think the only time they will be actually ridden is when they arrive here so 2hrs ish might not be enough and lets hope they dont need a recharge
Other than that its a fantastic idea, just the chattering of a chain ive heard
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I see that the TT licence is gradually being accepted by some (DCLucie?) as having some value. Does an international racing licence not exist any more, or even a National licence?
As for this stupid event, I hardly think on current news of performance that even a helmet is necessary, and that the chances of anyone going fast enough to have a damaging crash are at the very least, remote!
I will stick to Whitehall farces - at least one can grin when Brian Rix loses his trousers!
Perhaps for next year, I should organise a race, pretending to be some anonymous entrepeneur from an ethnic minority, thus preventing criticism due to political correctness, for clockwork-powered machines, the only rule being that they must not be wound up on the move. The only noise would be that of Mike Hailwood, Rem Fowler and many others, spinning in their graves.
MGP '68 & '69; TT 1970-74
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Has anyone actually analysed if any of the unfortunate injured or killed riders of recent years were not current active racers?
The whole licence thing seems to me to have been a knee-jerk reaction to bad publicity, and brought in because those in control had to be seen to be doing something, no matter how ineffectual.
I would suggest anyone who has competed in, say, more then ten TT races, no matter when, or gained five or more silver replicas, is going to be knowledgable, experienced, and sensible enough to dial themselves in through the practice period, provided they pass the usual racing licence medical. The idea of Mick Grant being a danger is insulting to a great champion, and ludicrous!
MGP '68 & '69; TT 1970-74
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hilary R
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PeterCourtney Wrote:Has anyone actually analysed if any of the unfortunate injured or killed riders of recent years were not current active racers?
The whole licence thing seems to me to have been a knee-jerk reaction to bad publicity, and brought in because those in control had to be seen to be doing something, no matter how ineffectual.
I would suggest anyone who has competed in, say, more then ten TT races, no matter when, or gained five or more silver replicas, is going to be knowledgable, experienced, and sensible enough to dial themselves in through the practice period, provided they pass the usual racing licence medical. The idea of Mick Grant being a danger is insulting to a great champion, and ludicrous!
I personally dont think he will race, i think his name just works well with the promotors,and so it should.
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