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A tough one from Barry
I've not got any idea this time
All I know is it's MGP and a newcomer
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15-01-2008, 01:07 AM |
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You know know it is don't you
SMARTARSE
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15-01-2008, 01:17 AM |
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Best I can come up with is that he is from Handsworth :roll:
And would you believe it theres two Handsworths :roll:
One near Birmingham the other near Sheffield
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15-01-2008, 08:03 PM |
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So it's no earlier than 1978 which is when the newcomers races started.
So the his TT podium was 1981 or after
On a 250 or 350 Yamaha in the newcomers race
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15-01-2008, 09:25 PM |
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Just thought of something green number plate.............it's a 250 isn't it.
I've figured out one guy who was in the 1978 Senior newcomers and finished on the podium in the 1981 TT F2 race. However the bike doesn't fit. His name is Phil Odlin. So far he is the best and closest to the clues I've found.
Having no direct access to the MGP database isn't helping
And I don't think Pete Wild ever did the MGP newcomers
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15-01-2008, 11:34 PM |
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And the moral.................don't trust the database on the duke site.
Cos according to it Pete Wild has only done the Manx once in 2005
There is no mention of him having done the 1979 newcomers...........I looked at his results cos I thought he fitted the bill but the database said no.
More please Barry :wink:
Or anyone for that matter
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16-01-2008, 01:50 PM |
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No proble Barry you mail em I'll post em
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I might just hold off for a day or two and try and get the answer before I post them up :wink:
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16-01-2008, 06:48 PM |
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Not at all Bill. But you must also have spotted mistakes in the other database referred to, and also in many of the books that purport to tell the story of 100 years of the TT.
Mentioning no titles but a prolific book that was released for last June is a prime example. Despite many superb photographs and, undoubtedly, a massive amount of research, there are many, many mistakes in the text. It's too large a book to delve back into to prove my statement, but just as examples I found three howlers within six pages;
P 156 column one, paragraph 3 refers to "burly German Dieter Braun notched his first and only TT victory in the 125cc race on a Maico. He was actually on a Suzuki, of course........
P161 column one, paragraph 3 when summing up the results from TT 1974, says that in the Production TT race, " Bill Smith scored both his own first TT win and the first for Honda's four-cylinder CB 500". In fact by this time, Smith had already won three TT's; the 1967 250cc Production, the 1971 250cc Production and the 1973 500cc Production, so it was his 4th TT win, not his first...........
P161 column two, paragraph 2 informs us that "Austin Hockley got his sole TT win in the (1974) 125cc race". This race was won by Clive Horton. Hockley shared the joint fastest lap with Horton, despite holding a slender lead at the end of lap one.
That's three errors quite close together in the book. What I am saying is that people in years to come will be using such books and databases to prove what is true or false in TT records, but they cannot necessarily believe all they read!!!
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16-01-2008, 09:16 PM |
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