(04-01-2016, 11:20 AM)Splashdown Wrote: There are quite a few names changes I will never be using, among them, "Dukes" for the "32nd", "Milky's" for "Ballaspur", and "Joey's" for the "26th Milestone". No offence to those riders.

The facts are that time and people move on, and changes WILL occur. The more frequently riders, spectators, and marshals use the new names, the sooner they will become adopted.

In 104 years things happen so that parts of the course get known for an event, or a fallen rider. We have to remember too that the spectators change over time - clearly no-one has attended every TT on the Mountain Course - so 'new' names can take hold as those using the 'old' names don't return.

As a vague analogy it's a bit like who you think of as James Bond - often it's what you first knew. Similarly JM130 still refers to the Superbike TT as the F1 race.

Using Nick's examples above, as a relative newcomer to the TT to me the 26th is "Joey's" but the 32nd and Ballaspur remain just that - probably because they are the common parlance that I've heard around the Island in my short time attending.

I know that "Dukes" is an 'official' name - a tribute given rather than as a result of an event - and wonder how McGuinness's and Molyneux's will be regarded in 5, 10, 20 years time. My guess is that they will fare better as they didn't have well known names beforehand.